If you want a better understanding of what these discussion groups I've been talking about look like, here's a video of one which took place at the Couchiching conference that I attended this summer. I wasn' t a part of this discussion group as I was off on the other side of the lawn discussing the impact of continental security on North American trade, but if you're interested in the environment it's worth watching. Well, maybe not the entire 59 minutes, but at least a portion. Notice the lake in the background - turns out it's Lake Geneva, while the mysterious Lake Couchiching is nearby.